Maturity in Devotional Service – 2
The following is the continuation of the transcription of an astounding lecture delivered by our GuruA spiritual teacher; a regular teacher may also be called guru. Maharaj H H Mahavishnu Goswami on 27th Jan 2009 in Rajkot on the verse 2.6.37. This verse is spoken by BrahmaThe creator (or, some say, secondary creator); one of the trimurti, three main deities in this world. to NaradaFamous rishi (sage) who acts as the messenger of the devas (gods). He wrote several important texts. Muni. In this lecture, Maharaj was explaining on the subject of Maturity in Devotional Service.
naaham na yuyam yad-rtaam gatim vidur
na vaamadevah kim utaapare suraah
tan-maayayaa mohita-buddhayas tv idam
vinirmitam caatma-samam vicaksmahe
“Since neither Lord Siva nor you nor I could ascertain the limits of spiritual happiness, how can other demigods know it? And because all of us are bewildered by the illusory external energy of the Supreme Lord, we can see only this manifested cosmos according to our individual ability.”
We should do nityam bhagavata sevaya. Regularly we must do study. Other (medical) treatments are not required. This is maturity. Again we have to make allowance for this. We are all family persons. Don’t insist that the whole family should sit for the spiritual activities. The housewife may be busy in arranging the house. Children may be going to school. So don’t insist. If they come it is alright. But you please continue. Don’t shout and scream. This is maturity. Shouting and screaming will spoil your maturity. Eventually we have to make it to the spiritual world. This is the point BrahmaThe creator (or, some say, secondary creator); one of the trimurti, three main deities in this world. says.
Very nice last sentence in the translation – “And because all of us are bewildered by the illusory external energy of the Supreme Lord, we can see only this manifested cosmos according to our individual ability.” This cosmos also, I can only see Rajkot. Ahmedabad is there, no doubt. But I don’t see it. My ability is only this. Suppose if I rise in the air, then the ability increases. So I can may be see upto Ahmedabad. If I rise again, then I can see the entire country. But again I come down, ability decreases. Ability is devotional ability. The more you are with Bhagavatam, the span of your vision increases. That is BrahmaThe creator (or, some say, secondary creator); one of the trimurti, three main deities in this world.’s point. According to individual ability you can view the material cosmos. So what to speak of spiritual? It is completely dream. Many times I have told, in that (spiritual) field, the cheating is going on. From beginning to end, the cheating is there. Because that field is unknown to everybody. Only these three mahajanas are supposed to know something. And they are telling, “We don’t know”. Then I claim that I know. I become a guruA spiritual teacher; a regular teacher may also be called guru.. Unnecessarily don’t fall prey to these things. Same three modes of material nature in my life, your life and every one of our life. Difference of degree is there but kind is the same.
Only one thing we are fortunate to have, that whatever modes we have, we are submitting it to Krishna. So He is the purifier. To believe that He is the purifying force is the topmost maturity. jagat pavitram pragrneeta karhicit - He can purify the atmosphere of the whole universe. And if you don’t follow that, then you are following the vaayasam tirtham – the pilgrimage place for the crows. You have to have the verses with you, arguments you have to have. Otherwise your own minds will not be satisfied. To spend time with Bhagavatam requires great courage. Our Narsingh Mehta sings – “partham pehla mastak mukhi - you have to first cut your head and put in front of you and then walk on the path of bhaktiThe path of loving devotional service (also Bhakti-YogaThe path of loving devotional service; also called bhakti marg.).. He says that to come to bhaktiThe path of loving devotional service (also Bhakti-YogaThe path of loving devotional service; also called bhakti marg.)., first of all you have to cut your head because everybody hates you for being a devotee. Civilly we have to be dead and then we can follow this path of bhaktiThe path of loving devotional service (also Bhakti-YogaThe path of loving devotional service; also called bhakti marg.).. General trend is to follow the illusory energy. Please remember these things. Maturity is not to think in terms of the temporary manifestation. That is cheating. We are cheating ourselves. Somehow or other we are forced to come to Prabhupada’s books or we have accepted it voluntarily. So now please do it. Nobody should stop you from being continuously in association with Srimad Bhagavatam. Since last 12 years we have heard so much. Now is the time you should start speaking loudly.
Bhagavatam saves us from all unnecessary labor. Only one thing we should run after and that is ‘reality’. So our mind is completely clear. I don’t have to go to so many places here and there. Wherever I am, if I am with Bhagavatam all the pilgrim places are there. Don’t worry, there is no condition. That is maturity. And guide the children like that. The young persons must be guided in this directions. The younger ones are lost. Otherwise, the TV is so powerful nowadays that the younger one’s are completely lost. Second thing now is becoming very powerful, that also we have to smash, that is the laptop. Man, I told, ‘lap’ is alright, but on ‘top’ we don’t have electricity. Child must be there on top of the lap instead of the laptop (laughter). And emails. You should save yourselves from these things. Only for minimal requirement we should touch these things really. Not always. Shukadeva Goswami did not have any laptop (laughter). I mean to say, the things which are obstructing our devotional service should be completely forsaken.
Maturity of understanding these verses can never be there unless there is one pointed attention. Otherwise you can’t read in-between the lines. Without maturity you can’t understand the verse. Find out the main message of the verse. Otherwise people are not interested. As it is people don’t understand these things. But if they get some direction to develop their devotional service, then some souls are interested. So see the crowd you are talking to. And we have to tell them. Preaching must be there, otherwise our own knowledge is not solidified. When I speak I also hear. This is Krishna’s words.
Preaching must be there, otherwise our own knowledge is not solidified. When I speak, I also hear. These are Krishna’s words. All these things, the more we get into these literatures, the more we become from worldly man to Krishna’s man – transcendental. That should be there. Otherwise as soon as you glide down from the transcendence to the material atmosphere, the miseries are there. Try to concentrate with all the intelligence you have. That is the real purpose of intelligence. And we don’t want to show anybody that I am a devotee, or I am mature or whatever. For our own good, we have to do it. That way, we should be completely inward. At the moment we are outward, thinking, “What people will think about me?“. Man, why to worry about the people? You are going to go away, so you have to do it. Don’t worry about these things. Again immaturity. I want to be humble, so I behave very humbly and then I see, “I am humble, does he recognize?” (laughter). This is immaturity. Man, be humble, that’s it (Maharaj tells this with a heavy emphasis)! We are so mad! And Krishna is apramattah sahaabhipadyase. He just comes and catches you. He will not wait for you. We do anything and everything, but we don’t plan for our death. So many plans we have. But there is no plan for death. Death is a must. ahir ivaakhum antakah. It is very nice verse. ahir aakhum. ahir means snake. aakhum means mouse. Immediately catches and swallows without any endeavor. Within a second the mouse was there and not there. The same thing is our situation also. The death of ahih, the snake of death is there. For that purpose we are not ready. We don’t even think about it. For death, this maturity must be there.
“When are you going to come to the right point? How many lives you are going to take?” That question you should ask yourself. And Prabhupada makes it very clear. His purports are clear. Please think about it. Just study and think. That’s it. As soon as you do that, the maturity will beautomatically evolving. svayam eva sphuraty adah. Sphuraty, what is the translation of sphuraty? Sprouts. Automatically sphuraty adah you know. And then again sri krishna naamaadi na bhaved graahyam indriyaih. How nice word it is? indriyaih cannot graahyam. sri krishna naamaadi. naam etc. Etc means all these things are non-different from Krishna. na bhaved graahyam indriyaih. By our senses we cannot graahya. So there must be transcendental sense. And that transcendental sense is the maturity to understand. Please, first we have to use our indriyas and then go beyond.
This verse is nice. sri krishna naamaadi na bhaved graahyam indriyaih. Then how? sevon mukhe hi. SevaService, a key Hindu principle/value; the soul's sanatana-dharmaThe religious duties that sustain humans and all living beings., fully expressed through bhaktiThe path of loving devotional service (also Bhakti-YogaThe path of loving devotional service; also called bhakti marg.)... Prabhupada says “Either you serve book Bhagavat or Person Bhagavat.” Book Bhagavat is in front of us now, we will worry about person afterwards. But book is there. So sevaService, a key Hindu principle/value; the soul's sanatana-dharmaThe religious duties that sustain humans and all living beings., fully expressed through bhaktiThe path of loving devotional service (also Bhakti-YogaThe path of loving devotional service; also called bhakti marg.)... Here book doesn’t require the massage (laughter). Otherwise we will say, “I am massaging my book.” We have to have maturity isn’t it? He says, “Yes I am massaging daily”. And the whole book becomes oily (thunderous laughter). Please, don’t play around. This is how, either you serve book Bhagavat or Person Bhagavat. nityam bhagavata sevayaa. and na bhaved graahyam indriyaih sevon mukhe hi. The more you are attached to it, teshaam satata yuktaanaam bhajataam priti purvakam dadaami, He promises, “I give him”. We don’t have faith really. We lack faith. And how long we are going to be faithless? He says,”You be faithless for the whole of life time. In the end you have to obey Me. I am coming (as death), and then you can’t deny Me.” At that time we will say, “I don’t recognize You.” Then Krishna will say,”I don’t wait for your recognition. I will just finish you off.” na bhaved graahyam indriyaih. For the whole of life time, the senses will be away – outward materially. These senses have got to be purified by continuous chanting, Bhagavat-gita and Bhagavatam. And the whole property will be ours. Unlimited. He is unlimited, everything is unlimited. Please this is the mature science.
One old man came here. I was sitting. He said to me, “I want to take sannyas”. I told, “Alright, this is very good idea. Keep on coming to the temple. Slowly we will work out.” He said, “No, I have to take sannyas. I have decided to take sannyas.” I said again, “Alright, keep coming to the temple.” Three times he repeated. I said, “Alright, don’t worry. Eventually it will be there.” And then, he asked, “Did you see my wife here?” (laughter) I asked, “Am I watchman to your wife?” (laughter). On one side he wants to take sannyas. On the other side, he was searching for his wife. I mean to say, we tell one thing but we have something else in our mind. He saw I am sitting on a nice seat, no worry nothing, so he though, “Let me also take sannyas”. Sannyas is a very difficult thing. Four walls only. If you are not interested in these things (serious study of scriptures, chanting etc) the four walls will kill you. So don’t be in a hurry to take sannyas. The thing is, the maturity of coming to Bhagavatam must be cultivated. Srila Prabhupada ki jai!!
Krishna willing, we will continue with the transcription of this transcendental lecture of our GuruA spiritual teacher; a regular teacher may also be called guru. Maharaj in the subsequent offering.
Thank you very much.
Yours in service of Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gurudeva,
Kalacakra Krsna das